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Welcome to the SSBN 657
USS FRANCIS SCOTT KEY
Crew Home Page - Blue & Gold
This web site is dedicated to the men of the Key and their families, and to the 41 for Freedom FBM submarines, anyone else just would not understand. As George Orwell wrote: "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." The Crew List of the Key contains the names of those men.
From Greg Ott: The
picture on the home page of the Key emergency surfacing was taken in Eluthera
Sound at AUTEC during acoustic trials. The photo was taken from the deck of the
sound trials ship, not the Pulaski. I was on the boat standing OOD and we staged
the picture. The boat came up much closer than anticipated.
December 2016 - New Shipmates added in December 2016: Richard Burke 90 - 91. Check Crew List for details.
December 15, 2016 - Added the names of the 32 deceased crew members I found on the USSVI web site. I was able to find obituaries on many of those shipmates. Some shipmates families however, decided not to publish obituaries for some reason so I have very little on their passing. Made some changes to the Eternal Patrol page to clean things up a bit. Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
December 7, 2016 - Learned of the passing of Plank Owner Eldon Ivy on November 16, 2016 in Connecticut. Eldon's obituary can be found in Eternal Patrol. Ivy was a great guy and a great shipmate serving on the Key from 1965 - 1969. He will be missed. Rest in peace shipmate - smooth sea and a following wind.
December 7, 2016: Today I was on the USSVI web site and noticed their Eternal Patrol page. It had a feature where you could insert a hull number and view any shipmates that were on their list. I did this and up came 91 Key shipmates. I compared this with the Eternal Patrol list I have been keeping on the SSBN657.com web site and found there were 32 names that were missing from our site. It is a bit overwhelming to see 32 deceased shipmates at one time. So, over the next few weeks, I will be adding these shipmates: Updated 12/15/16 - all have now been added to Eternal Patrol.
William L. Perkins STSCS; Walter Barden ICC; William Max Allen EMCS; Robert A Jones STS2; Richard D Barker SKCM; O. Michael Mulkey ICCS; Richard M. Santos E5; William R. Harring MMCM; David J. Fletcher ETC; Clarence Lammers STCM; James B. Hurder EN1; Clarence "Gus" Knight YN1; Roy E. Hopf EN1; Richard A. Yoder EMC; James A. Lundell EN1; Thomas P. Broderick LCDR; Grover Ingram ICC; Peter Stanko RMC; Hugh M. Doherty CAPT; John R. Hazen STS3; Mill J. Fields EMC; Jon R. Sutton RMC; Roger H Shelp STCM; Bobby Joe Creamer MM1; Larry W. Vogt MMCS; George Franceschiello RMC; Ronald Lee Callis ETC; Robert E Sukow, jr ICC; William C. Wilson IV MT1; Donald Rice MS3; John R Toothman FTG2.
I do not have information on most of these shipmates as to which crew they were on and what years they served. If you recognize any of them, please send me any details that you might have to Russ Christie at firstname.lastname@example.org. I hate to see an empty memorial area next to a shipmates name. To all these shipmates, their families and friends, please accept the deepest sympathies of the entire crew of the Francis Scott Key. We will do our best to respect and preserve their memories and accomplishments during their service to our country. Oars at rest gentlemen; job well done.
November 2016 - New Shipmates added in November 2016: Earls, Jim 66 - 67 Plankowner; Harrison, George W. 75 - 78; Buffington, Frank 83 - 87. See Crew List for details.
November 9, 2016 - Received an e-mail from Chris Earls notifying us that his father, Jim Earls, had passes away in 1990 and asked that Jim be added to the crew listing of the Key. Jim Earls was a blue crew plank owner and Medical Officer on the Key's first patrol. Jim's obituary can be found in Eternal Patrol. Our sympathies go out to his family and we thank them for bringing Jim home. Rest in peace shipmate - Job well done. Jim's picture is below along with his plank owners plaque.
August 2016 - New Shipmates added in August 2016: Hallas, Kirby LCDR Active Duty 89 - 92 (was STS2 on the Key); Lucero, Ruben 88 - 90; Reidinger, Phil 80 - 82. Check Crew List for details.
August 31, 2016 - Just received news of the passing of Lee Eubanks, plank owner, Quartermaster, 65 - 71 Blue Crew. Lee signed my qual card. We served two years together on the Key and was a sailor I always looked up to. He passed August 27, 2016 in Hampton, VA. I will add Lee to the Key's Eternal Patrol list once his obituary has been published. Ron Shouse noticed the announcement on Facebook, put there by one of Lee's grandchildren. Job well done sailor, and I can personally vouch for it. Rest in peace.
August 31, 2016 - Shipmate Harry Baker just sent in this picture of his new license plate. It is a beauty. Florida obviously allows more customization than most states. Harry was a TM on the Blue Crew in the early 70's.
June 2016 - New shipmates added in June 2016 - Davis, Ronald E. 67 - 68. See Crew List for details.
June 22, 2016 - The 2016 Key reunion was a great success. Anyone who has pictures from the event can send them to email@example.com and they will be added to the collection. So far I have received a few pictures and they can be seen at Reunion 2016. The next reunion of the crew of the Key will be in 2018 in Branson, MO.
April 4, 2016 - I searched the internet today and found several former Key shipmates that had passed away in the past year. Benjamin Bryan Covington late 70's, Richard M Medders 75 - 78? and Gary Darr 70's Gold Crew. I also found Christopher C. Philbrick who served on the SS Francis Scott Key in World War 2. How? Well there was a liberty ship named after Key. Mr Philbrick was a gunner onboard the Key. Who knew? Well, I've added Mr Philbrick to our Eternal Patrol listing. I hope no one minds, as he served in WW2 and Korea and had a remarkable tour of duty. Just read his obituary in Eternal Patrol. To all these fine men, rest your oars sailors, job well done.
Below is a picture of the SS Francis Scott Key 0016. Google "The Murmansk Run" to read about the liberty ship S.S. Key.
April 4, 2016 - I received an e-mail from a deceased shipmates daughter. She found some items in her father's gear that he said was from the Key. Her father had been an EM1 probably in the 85 - 92 time period. His name was Clifford Garland. She would like to know what these are. If you know, drop me an e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org. Her full e-mail is below the picture.
father served aboard the Key and is listed in your Eternal Patrol: Clifford B.
Garland. I found a few objects among his old Navy belongings and I recall some
mention of their being part of the ship, but I'm not sure where they could have
come from. Any ideas? I know I have a few old photos from the sub laying around
somewhere-- if I find them, do I email them to you to be posted to the site?
March 2016 - New Shipmates added in March 2016. Frazier, Dr Daniel W abt 1970; Parry, Thomas L 68 - 71. Check Crew List for details.
March 26, 2016. Recently received the news of the passing of two Key shipmates. Thomas L Parry was the Engineer on the Key 68 - 71 on the Gold Crew. Tom passed away just as few days ago. Also passing recently was Dr Daniel Frazier of the Gold Crew around 1970. We are not 100% sure this is the same Dr Frazier that served as medical officer on the Key so any confirmation would be appreciated. Our deepest sympathies go out to the families of these two shipmates. Their obituaries can be found in Eternal Patrol memorial are of this web site. Rest in peace sailors, job well done.
February - New Shipmates added in February 2016. Allen, William R 75 - 77; Garza, Glenn 81 - 85. Check Crew List for details.
January 2016 - New shipmates added in January 2016. Hansen, David L 81 - 84; Killian, Chris 79 - 81; Tompkins, Steven 89 - 91. Check Crew List for details.
January 18, 2016 - Just received news of the passing of David L Hansen. Dave was the COB of the KEY during its second overhaul in Newport News. Dave's obituary is on his Eternal Patrol area. Our sympathies go out to his family and friends. Job well done sailor.
December 14, 2015 - It is reunion time again. Planning is complete for the 2016 F.S. Key reunion in New London, CT -May 4 to May 8, 2016. Here is the e-mail sent out to all hands. If you did not receive the e-mail, be sure Diane has your correct address.
The dates for the reunion is Wed. May 4th - Sun. May 8th. This year our banquet will be held on Thurs. May 5th.
Along with the Groton
Base registration form, you need to fill out the Key reunion registration form
& send me a check for dues,
This is a milestone
event for the Key. Sept. 2016 will be the 50th Anniversary of the Commissioning
of the USS Francis Scott Key. Help us
December 2015 - New Shipmates added in December 2015. Rudes, Mark 87 - 89, Barrows, Chris 86 - 90. Check Crew List for details
December 14, 2015 - Received notice of the sudden passing of shipmate Chris Barrows. It appears from his obituary that Chris served on the Key sometime between 1984 and 1990. Chris has been added to the Crew List and his obit can be found in Eternal Patrol. Rest in peace shipmate.
September 10, 2015 - Blue crew Captain Stanley E Bump passed away on August 11, 2015 after a lengthy illness. He retired from the navy as a Rear Admiral. Many of us served with CO Bump on the Key for his entire tour from 1971 until 1975 making 7 patrols, two canal transits and one overhaul in Bremerton Washington. He was a fine officer and will be greatly missed. Our deepest sympathies go out to his family, friends and shipmates. Rear Admiral Bumps obituary can be found in the Eternal Patrol area . Rest your oar sailor - Job well done.
September 10, 2015 - Greg Webber informed us of the passing in 2012 of Dennis Fortier, Nav ET chief on the gold crew from 72 - 74. We wish the family and friends of Dennis our deepest sympathies. The obituary can be found in Eternal Patrol. Rest in peace Dennis. Job well done.
August 2015 - New shipmates added in August 2015. Carpenter, Raymond 69 - 73. Check Crew List for details.
July 8, 2015 - Shipmates added in April - June 2015: Tripodina, Raymond 70 - 71; McLean, Chris 73 - 76. Check Crew List for details
July 8, 2015 - Two shipmates have shipped out on eternal patrol; Ed Ray - Torpedoman on the Key from 69 - 71 on the Blue Crew and Glenn F. Fleming A-Gang from 79 - 80. Our deepest sympathies go out to the families and friends of these two fine sailors. We were honored to serve with them on the Key. Rest your oars sailors - Job well done.
Ed Ray Glenn Flemming
July 8, 2015 - Planning has begun on the 2016 Key Reunion in New London/Groton, CT. Al & Diane Singleman recently toured the area searching for the best hotel deal they could find for the event. I believe the reunion is scheduled for the first week in May 2016. I will update the web site once Diane has finalized the details... Keep well and keep off the eternal patrol list!
March 2015 - Shipmates added in February & March 2015 - Kenyon, Barry 72 - 77; Warren, Clay 74 - 78. Check crew List for details.
March 27, 2015 - Received news of the passing of Ramon "Cabbie" Cabalona, Plank Owner, Supply Div, 65 - 68 Blue Crew. Ramon's daughter Yvonne notified us of his recent passing on March 6, 2015. Our sympathies go out to all of Ramon's family and friends. Job well done shipmate.
March 26, 2015 - This is particularly hard for me to write. I was on the web and decided to look for a friend and shipmate that I had not heard from in 6 or 7 years. Instead of finding his address, I found his obituary. It is with great personal sadness that I announce the passing of Marlin Neal McDougall, MT2 Blue Crew 71 - 74. Marlin passed in April 2010 after a short illness not long after moving from Kerrville, TX to Grass Valley, CA. He was only 59. Rest in peace buddy, rest in peace.
Marlin getting 2nd Class promotion in 1972 from Capt Bump in Bremerton.
January 2015 - New Key Shipmates add in January 2015. Martin, Steve 71 - 74; Loesberg, Stephen 75 - 80; Smith, Larry 84 - 90. Check Crew List for details.
January 15, 2015 Received notice of the passing of Kent W. Hamlin MPA Gold Crew in the early 70's. Bill Wendland sent us notice of Kent's passing which happened in 2010. Our sympathies go out to Kent's family and friends as we wish our shipmate a peaceful rest. Job well done.
September 2014 - I want to apologize to all for the delay of 2 months in updating the Key web site. I have technical problems - using MS Front Page 2000 on an XP machine - making updating very difficult. I think I have a work-around now that will allow more frequent updates...Russ
September 2014 - New Shipmates added in August and September 2014 - Hazzard, Mark 84 - 89; Rynerson, Roderic R dates unknown; Burke, Thomas 82 - 85; Walters; Jeffrey 77 - 80. See Crew List for details.
September 3, 2014 - The review of the 2014 Key Reunion in Frederick, MD is now available. Just click Reunion 2014.
September 3, 2014 - Received notice of the passing of plankowner Joseph Varese from his daughter Angie Grams. Joe passed in February 2013 from lung cancer. Angie would like to hear from anyone that remembers her dad and she can be reached at email@example.com. Our Sympathies go out to Angie and all of Joe's family, friends and shipmates.
September 3, 2014 - Received notice of the passing of Robert "Wally" Cox. His sister, Ramona Hitchens sent us word of his passing. Wally served on the Key from 1974 - 1976 on the Gold Crew in the Weapons Div. Wally passed in November 2010. Rest in peace shipmate. Job well done.
September 3, 2014 - Received notice of the passing of Roderic Roy Rynerson Sr. on July 4, 2014 in Naples Florida. His obituary mentioned that
he served on the Key. If you have any details on Roderic, please send them in.
July 2014 - New Key shipmates added in July 2014 - Ross, Steven P 86 - 90. Check Crew List for details.
July 2, 2014 - The reunion in Frederick, MD was a great success. Diane Singleman has this message for all that attended:
2014 Reunion Attendees,
Below is the 2014 Reunion Crew. Enough talent there to crew any sub in today's navy... as long as they helped us down the ladders.
June 4, 2014 - Just updated the reunion attendee list for the 2014 Reunion for the last time. Several new shipmates have decided to come. Only 1 week till the reunion. I am already enhancing some of my old sea stories. Hope to see you there.
The 2014 Key Reunion Registration Form is now available. Please fill out the form and mail it with a check to Diane Singleman. All the details are on the form. I hope as many shipmates as possible are able to attend. Click here: 2014 KEY REUNION REGISTRATION FORM
May 14, 2014 - Only one month to go for the key reunion in Frederick, MD. For those of you still sitting on the fence wondering if you should go or not, give it a shot. You will not be disappointed. I have been to 5 reunions and each one has been better than the last and every one of them has been a lot of fun. Where else can you be around so many people that know exactly what you are talking about when you discuss life on the F, S. Key. It does not matter if you don't know anyone there. We are all old shipmates and can't remember who we served with anyway. Relive your 20's again for one last time. See you at the reunion.
April 30, 2014 - New Reunion Information:
Saturday June 14 reunion participants will be attending the following: Many of you may remember the brass plaque that was in berthing that said that the boat was named after Francis Scott Key. We have a surprise for you!! One of these plaques was found in San Diego and given to us a few years ago. I delivered to the head of the Key Association and cemetery caretaker and he had it refurbished. This plaque is now mounted on a stone pillar at his grave site in Mt Olivet Cemetery. On Saturday, June 14, we will be dedicating this plaque. The town found out about this and the dedication has turned into a major town event. The VFW, American Legion, the mayor and many other townsfolk's will be attending our dedication ceremony. They will also be laying wreaths at his (Key's) grave site.
Following the dedication, we will go to the Francis Scott Key chapel behind the grave site and have a ceremony to toll the bell for all the Key shipmates, that we know of, who have gone on Eternal Patrol.
USSVI members be sure to bring your vests to the reunion.
April 2014 - New Key shipmates added in April 2014. Poole, Ron 75 - 76; Fillmore, Paul - 65 - 69; Imperato, Joe 81 - 82. Check Crew List for details.
April 17, 2014 - Just added more name of those attending the 2014 Key Reunion in June. To see the list just click, Reunion Attendees. Come join the good times and reconnect with shipmates or meet some new ones.
April 5, 2014 - Just received notice from Paul Fillmore of the passing of RADM Douglas Volgenau. Douglas was a plank owner on the Key and its first Engineering Officer. His obituary can be found in the Eternal Patrol area. We send along our deepest sympathies to his family and friends. Rest in peace shipmate. Job well done.
March 2014 - New Key shipmates added in March 2014. Lindsey, Rick 72 - 74; Bullard, Randy 79 - 82. Check crew list for details.
February 2014 - New Shipmates added in February 2014. Foltz, David 80 - 81; Stanfield, Donald - late 60's; Bass, Daniel L -late 70's?. Check crew list for details.
February 3, 2014- I received the below e-mail from Laura Lynn Bass, the daughter of a shipmate on Eternal Patrol. She is looking for anyone who knew her dad, Daniel Lynn Bass. Here is her e-mail:
My name is Laura Bass. My father, Daniel Lynn Bass, served on the USS Francis Scott Key I believe in the late 70s or early 80s as I was born in 1987. I have a couple of pictures of the crew around here somewhere that I'd like too send in. I'm hoping I can connect with someone who knew my father as he died when I was only 4. I know he was hard working and quite the jokester. He was a very funny jolly man with a kind heart. I don't know how your site works but any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!
Laura Lynn Bass
If any of you guys remember her dad, just drop me an e-mail at ssbn657@ comcast.net and I will give you her e-mail address. Daniel has been added to the Eternal Patrol area. Rest in peace shipmate.
February 3, 2014 - Received notice of the passing of Donald Stanfield, MT2 Blue in the late 60's. Our sympathies go out to Don's family and shipmates. Rest your oar sailor. Job well done.
January 2014 - New Shipmates added in January, 2014. Kosmus, William early 70's. Check Crew List for details.
January 15, 2014 - Received an e-mail from Harry Baker notifying us of the passing of shipmate William Kosmus. We do not have any details of when William served aboard the Key. We do know he was a Machinist Mate. Anyone who remembers William please send in some info. His obituary can be read in Eternal Patrol. Rest in peace shipmate. Job well done.
December 2013 - New Key shipmates added in December 2013. Letteney, Lawrence 65 - 67 Plank Owner; Watson, David 88; Skinner, Wayne 70's.
December 23, 2013 - Tom Courtien noticed an obituary that mentioned that the person once served on the Key. His name was Wayne Skinner. We do not have any of the details about Wayne's time on the Key so any shipmates that remember Wayne, please send any into to us for his memorial area. We have added Wayne to the Eternal Patrol list. Rest in peace Wayne - Job well done.
November 2013 - New Key shipmates added in November 2013. Grube, Richard 75 - 79; Applebee, Ron 79 - 82; Eddinger, Danny 79 - 82; Furst, Gary late 70's. Check Crew List for details.
November 12, 2013 - Just learned of the passing of Gary Furst, served on the blue crew in the later 1970's. Shipmate Richard Grube told us that Gary passed away in an auto accident in 1997. We have added Gary to the Crew List and the Eternal Patrol area. Rest in peace Gary with all your other shipmates - job well done.
October 2013 - New Key shipmates added in October 2013. Seidel, Patrick, XO - 92 - Decom. Check Crew List for details.
October 18, 2013 - Received news of the passing of another Key shipmate: Dennis Gertz, gold crew 76 - 78, sonar. His obituary can be viewed in Eternal Patrol. Rest in peace shipmate. Job well done.
September 2013 - New Shipmates added in September 2013. Finley, Lester 88 - 92. Check Crew List for details.
September 25, 2013 - Just received new of the passing of Chief Chuck Winsor, blue crew COB and shipmate from 1970 - 1974. Chuck passed on Monday, Sept 23 in Port Townsend, WA. Our deepest sympathies go out o his wife Bev and family. I served 4 years on the Key with the Chief and the picture of him below was taken at my re-enlistment ceremony. Chief, rest your oar. Job well done.
September 18, 2013. Seven more names added to the reunion list. Check it out Reunion 2014 Attendee List
August 2013 - New Shipmates added in August 2013 - Dillard, Steven M 82 - 86. Check Crew List for details.
August 16, 2013 - A sad update today as we have three Key shipmates to add to the Eternal Patrol list. Paul Conti - Gold Crew 1970's; Steven Dillard - Both Crews 1982 - 1986; Bob Maufroy - Blue Crew 77 - 81. The boat on Eternal Patrol just got a major upgrade to its crew with the addition of these three men. You can read the details by clicking on Eternal Patrol. Also, please feel free to e-mail any comments or stories to add to the memorial area of each of them. The pictures below are Paul, Steve and Bob in that order. Our sympathies go out to all the families and friends of these men. Rest your oars shipmates - jobs well done.
July 2013 - New Shipmates added in July 2013 - Mazer, Gene 86 - 90; Diller, Roger 84 - 89. Check Crew List for details
July 31, 2013 - I have created a list of those who are thinking of attending the 2014 Key reunion. Reunion 2014 Attendees. If you think you might attend, just e-mail me your name, years served on the Key, Crew (B or G) and anyone that will be attending with you. I will add you to the list. This doesn't mean you will attend, just that you might. I can remove your name if you decide not to attend. By creating this list, shipmates can see those they would like to reconnect with. The reunions are a lot of fun and you will not be disappointed if you attend. The list is currently in a rough form as I am traveling but I will fix it with all the pertinent data by Aug 15 so send your intentions to firstname.lastname@example.org.
July 31, 2013 - Some updated information from Diane regarding the Reunion: Reunion Info
June 13, 2013 - Received notice from Jeff Burke of the passing of William "Willie" Jarnagin 84 - 89 Blue Crew on June 6, 2013. We have added Willie to the Eternal Patrol list and wish his family, friends and shipmates our sympathies. Rest your oar shipmate, job well done.
May 2013 - Shipmates added in May 2013 - Hayes, Jim 78 - 80. Check Crew List for details.
May 31, 2013 - Just received notice of the passing of shipmate and friend, Steve Rosen TM 2 Blue Crew 67 - 70. It is always difficult to add a shipmate to the Eternal Patrol list especially when you served with him. Steve even signed my qual card. We all send Steve's family our deepest regrets - and to Steve we say; Sailor, rest your oar - Job well done.
Steve Topside 1970 Steve (on right) visiting William Moray in AMR 1
May 6, 2013 - We are now one year away from the next Key Reunion which will be in the Baltimore, MD area in conjunction with the 200th anniversary of the writing of the Star Spangled Banner by FS Key. We hope that many Key shipmates are able to attend this special reunion. If you are only going to go to one reunion, make it this one.
April 2013 Shipmates added in April 2013. Oakley, Keith 83 - 89; Wareing, Ralph Jr 84 - 89. Check Crew List for details.
March 2013 - Shipmates added in March 2013. Phillips, Patrick 88 - 92; Bragg, Tom 66 - 68; Mills, Keith 72 - 77. Check Crew List for details.
March 24, 2013 - We were recently notified of the passing February 23, 2013 of Terry Byrd, 69 - 72 E-Div Blue Crew. We have added Terry to the Eternal Patrol list and send our regrets to his family, friends and shipmates. Rest your oar shipmate, job well done.
March 16, 2013 - The muster form on this web site, used to add new shipmates, has been abused by an ad crawler that is sending dozens of bogus ads every day. I have deleted the Muster button on the form which will prevent any further transmissions from the muster form. New shipmates will now have to e-mail me their current information to ssbn657(at)comcast.net using the @ instead of (at). If I put the real e-mail address in complete form, the ad crawler will begin sending ads to that address.
February 2013 - Shipmates added in February 2013. DeMotte, Michael 90 - 93 Decom; Garner, Jeffrey 85 - 89; Golling, James 88 - Decom; Gulley, Jim 79 - 81; Towles, David 90 - Decom. Check Crew List for details.
February 25, 2013 - Received this notice of a memorial service being held at The Nautilus in Groton, CT on May 4, 2013
Hello - my father, James L. Bohli, served
on the USS Francis Scott Key (Gold 70 - 73) and he passed away in August 2012.
I am planning a memorial for May 4th at The Nautilus in Groton. I am
looking for contact information for anyone that served with him. Even if
they are not able to attend I would love stories about him. Of course ones
that can be shared (haha). My email is email@example.com or my phone
number is 860-908-1176. Thank you very much.
January 2013 - New Key shipmates added in January 2013 -Cox, Timothy R. - 72 - 79; Heckert, Larry 80 - 82; Satterwhite, Douglas 81 - 84; Terrell, Clyde 73 - 77; Burton, Billy 67 - 69. Check Crew List for details.
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